Potency Boost: Can Sunflower Lecithin Make Your Edibles Stronger?

lecithin and thc

The edibles world is abuzz with the word “lecithin.” You’ll see it in oil tutorials and recipes all over the web. It’s becoming one of the most important ingredients that marijuana chefs and home cooks are using to take their weed food to the next level.

But…

What is this Lecithin, and what does it do?

Why would you use Lecithin in Cannabis Oil?

How much Lecithin should you use in your edibles?

What kind of Lecithin should you use and where can you get it?

Today, we’ll tackle these questions and more in this post. This tutorial is also available in Wake & Bake, so if you’re more of a hard copy kind of guy or gal…  you check that whole thing out.

Next Level: Sunflower Lecithin in Edibles

In a minute, it’s going to get real tech, but before that, let’s go over the basics.

What is Lecithin?

sunflower lecithin and cannabis

Don’t mind the weird yellow spot… It’s just a kitchen casualty.

Most of us are familiar with lecithin as an ingredient in things like chocolate. It’s used an as emulsifier; for bringing everything together and making it smooth. It’s also used in many pharmaceuticals to help get the drug into your system more quickly. It’s also sold as a supplement in health food stores because our big brains are huge fans of the stuff.

When added to cannabis coconut oil (or hash butter), lecithin increases absorption of THC and other Cannabinoids into your cell membranes and speeds up the process. It doesn’t technically make your oil “more potent.”

It’ll makes your oil more effective, so a 100 mg dose will still be 100 mgs, but the effects will come on faster and will feel stronger. This way, you can use less oil in your recipes (great for conserving your ganja) or use the same (great for stronger edibles). Player’s choice.

Is Lecithin Bad for You?

cannabis oil sunflower lecithinLecithin has gotten a bad wrap because of its use in processed foods, pesticides, chemicals and drugs, and most hippies see the word “lecithin” and go running for the hills. It’s usually used in the form of Soy Lecithin, which has been shown to be mostly genetically modified.

But lecithin has an interesting effect on your health. If you have the time, I’d suggest you check out all of these amazing things that lecithin does in your body.

If you’re in a hurry, a few highlights:

  • It aids in the immune system by coating our red blood cells and providing protection against the invasion of viruses, bacteria, etc.
  • It’s a solvent for cholesterol, triglycerides and gnarly fats. It prevents hardening of the arteries, stroke and other heart issues.
  • It improves memory, helping brain cells develop and aiding in the transmission of nerve impulses in the brain.
  • And sooooo much more (check the link above and have your mind blown).

Since lecithin already plays a major role in the absorption of nutrients into the cells, it’s no wonder that adding lecithin would aid in the absorption of THC and other cannabinoids.

If you’re already lecithin deficient, which I suspect many of us may be (especially after the Great Fat Scare of the 1990’s), our cell membranes are relatively hardened, and it’s tough to get anything through.

If you’re exposed to heavy metals, pollutants, hard drugs/pharmaceuticals, food additives, pesticides, etc., your cell membranes are even tougher.  Adding lecithin to your diet (and to your edibles) can be a great way to increase nutrient absorption and to get your cell membranes to loosen up.

I know what you’re thinking hippie: “I’m not going to put GMO Soy Lecithin in my body temple just because you’re telling me that my body temple likes it.” Totally! I’m with you. Check out the Sunflower vs. Soy section below and know that these days, there are finally organic and non-gmo options for people like us.

How Lecithin & THC Work Together

lecithin and thcHere’s an interesting and science-y way to look at what’s happening with lecithin in cannabis oil from the folks at THC Geek:

“Since lecithin contains phospholipids, the process of encapsulating the THC, and making it water-soluble and absorbable, can be completed prior to ingestion. This liposomal encapsulation process that lecithin facilitates, makes edibles especially potent, since the micelles that it creates serve as a disguise for the THC resin inside the body, allowing it to be absorbed more readily.

As if that were not enough to merit consideration, lecithin also serves as a surfactant (a compound that lowers surface tension), helping distribute the THC throughout the body more quickly.”

Sunflower Lecithin vs. Soy Lecithin…. Granules vs. Powdered vs. Liquid vs. Gel Caps


In the past, I avoided putting lecithin in cannabis oil because I thought one of the only sources was Soy Lecithin, which (unless otherwise labeled) is known to be almost completely composed of GMO soy (which is gnarly for many reasons). I could only find organic soy lecithin in mega bulk, so I gave up on it.

But when I was working on the second edition of Wake & Bake, I found out that sunflower lecithin is a great alternative. It’s still inexpensive and it’s widely available. I’ve been using the Sunflower Lecithin Powder from Swanson which is pretty cheap and GMO free, but I can’t wait to get my hands on some of this Organic Sunflower Lecithin from Lekithos. [update: since I originally wrote this post, organic lecithin has become impossible to find again. I’m not sure where all of it is going… cough cough… commercial edibles in Colorado and Washington. Hopefully there will be a source of non-hexane extracted lecithin that I can recommend soon. I’ll keep you posted.]

The sunflower lecithin gel caps were the only thing I could find at first, and they technically probably worked, but they were a pain in the ass to cut open and gave the oil a very gel-capped taste/smell until the oil sat in the fridge for about a week. They were also much more expensive.  The Magical Butter folks add that the capsules contain gnarly binders and fillers.

I recommend using liquid, granules or powder.

 

Ratio for Lecithin in Cannabis Oil

ratio of lecithin in cannabis oil

This part’s easy… For every cup of oil you use, use 1 Tablespoon of Sunflower Lecithin granules or liquid.

For example…

1 Cup Coconut Oil

1 Tablespoon Sunflower Lecithin

7-14 Grams Cannabis Trim or Dried Buds

You can incorporate lecithin into a cannabis coconut oil recipe or the hash butter method.

Much Love,

Corinne

 

For Extra Special Brownie Points: Have you used lecithin in cannabis oil before? What kind did you use? Did you notice any difference?

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  • Reply
    Dallas
    April 28, 2016 at 11:11 am

    I noted this on another one of your posts but thought I’d put it here as well. If you use the washing method for your infused butter/oil then make sure to add the lecithin after the washing step, or else you’ll end up with a weed Hollandaise sauce!

    I’ve also been wondering if you could use aquafaba (chickpea water) as a replacement for lecithin as well. I’ve seen people use it for vegan cheese making in replacement for lecithin but don’t know if it would work for cannabis oil or not…

    • Reply
      TC
      September 22, 2016 at 11:26 pm

      I tried to sous vide my oil but my seal broke on the bag and the oil leaked into the water bath. I refrigerated it and was able to salvage some solids that rose to the top. I melted that but with the lecithin added before the seal debacle now I’m afraid I have some canna-hollandaise. Any ideas on fixing? It’s chilling now and I’ll know tomorrow how it went.

      • Reply
        Dallas
        September 23, 2016 at 8:05 am

        Hey TC. When mine turned into emulsified “hollandaise” sauce I slowly boiled off the excess water in a double boiler. Took a long time, but the oil still seemed to work fine (you’ll probably lose a lot of the terpenes etc but the THC/CBD should still be there). I’ve started to double bag all my sous-vide decarbs and oil-infusions because I’ve had bags leak as well. Haven’t had an issue since!

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          TC
          September 28, 2016 at 9:41 pm

          Great suggestion. I ended up putting it into a crockpot and cooking on low for 12 hrs. I was able to recover most of coconut oil, around 16 oz of the 24 oz I started with. The remaining will be used in smoothies. Thank you!

    • Reply
      Nick
      February 3, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      Would you recommend adding lecithin with decarbing or decarbed bud when making a tincture? Thanks for all of your awesome recipes and ideas!

    • Reply
      Christine Rizzotti
      April 15, 2017 at 10:07 am

      Thank you Corinne 🙂
      I am making a tincture in MBM2. I know the benefits of lecithin and I use Soy Lecithin Powder when baking edibles, however, I have no idea how to incorporate it into a tincture/ gummie recipe. Would you have any suggestions? Using 1 oz of weed if that helps.
      Thank you
      Chrissy

  • Reply
    Brigitte
    May 17, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    Great article, thanks for the clear, bullshit-free info. Just made your recipe for cannacoconut oil and it’s sitting in the fridge now on its second wash. I used non-gmo soy granules and was concerned that they may not melt evenly or become clumpy, but as soon as I put the ingredients over a double boiler the granules melted like a boss right along with the coconut oil. Haven’t actually experimented ingesting it and it’s effects yet but all signs point to a win!

    • Reply
      Lauri
      August 11, 2016 at 6:34 pm

      Well, the anti-GMO rhetoric was bullshit but everything else was interesting. I found the pro-science and anti-science mixture quite perplexing but I guess everyone has a religion about something that is impervious to facts and data.

      • Reply
        Corinne
        September 5, 2016 at 10:11 pm

        Hi Lauri!

        In what way was mentioning GMOs in this post about lecithin “bullshit”? I’m pretty sure I just mentioned that some people avoid it for the reasons above, which is a fact.

        It is also a fact that most soy grown in the US is “herbicide resistant” which means it is genetically modified to resist damage from herbicides that contain glyphosate: “According to the USDA, in 2012 more than 93 percent of soy planted was engineered to withstand herbicides (sold by the same companies who patent and sell the seeds).”-Forbes (see article below).

        So now that those two facts are cleared up, let’s get into the data that you claim I’m “impervious” to. I thoughtfully avoid GE crops for the following reasons (and you may want to get cosy, because this is going to take a minute):

        1. They contain higher levels of herbicides and pesticides than even conventionally grown produce.
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/bethhoffman/2013/07/02/gmo-crops-mean-more-herbicide-not-less/

        2. Many of those herbicides contain glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round Up). According to the EPA, 100 million pounds of Glyphosate is applied to farms and lawns each year, so there’s a shit ton of it around, and as you can see from the Forbes article, glyphosate use is on the rise.

        Glyphosate is a fun-as-shit chemical that has been shown to harm human fetal development and impact normal estrogen production (which is something I know you’re interested in). In fact, glyphosate has been found to be directly “responsible for the irreversible conversion of androgens into estrogens” http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1257596/. So there’s that.

        The herbicides also contain these nifty little things called adjuvants. Adjuvants are deemed “inert” by herbicide companies and are protected because they’re considered “proprietary”. Scientific American reported on a study that shows that these “inert” compounds are quite devastating to human cellular development:

        “Until now, most health studies have focused on the safety of glyphosate, rather than the mixture of ingredients found in Roundup. But in the new study, scientists found that Roundup’s inert ingredients amplified the toxic effect on human cells—even at concentrations much more diluted than those used on farms and lawns.

        One specific inert ingredient, polyethoxylated tallowamine, or POEA, was more deadly to human embryonic, placental and umbilical cord cells than the herbicide itself – a finding the researchers call ‘astonishing.'”

        Astonishing, right?

        3. How about our pollinators? The damn bees can’t find their way home after ingesting trace amounts of glyphosate: http://jeb.biologists.org/content/jexbio/218/17/2799.full.pdf
        They also can’t remember shit: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25063858

        And you know that whole colony collapse disorder thing? A study found that neonicotinoids, a pesticide commonly used on GE corn crops, is prooobably to blame for some/most/all of that shit:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2014/05/12/the-cause-of-colony-collapse-disorder-disappearing-bees-becoming-more-clear/#28a1c8884ddb

        You mentioned religion, so do you think this is just some kind of honeybee rapture? Science says nah.

        Really, I’m not going to argue that consuming GE crops or GMOs is going to give your offspring a third eye or give you a rare cancer. I don’t know and there’s no research that directly shows any x-men kind of shit going on. What I *am* saying is that there are consequences to mass monoculture agro systems that are dependent on GE crops, herbicides and pesticides. Because those things are undeniably effecting the natural systems that we depend upon to live and have effects on our biology as well.

        Also, as a farmer, I know that genetically modified plants, that don’t produce seed, take food source control out of the hands of farmers, which I’m not a huge fan of. And once you use the herbicides mentioned above, you render the land virtually useless for any other type of cultivation, especially when the newer “persistant” forms of the chemicals are used. The farmland legacy that will be passed down to the next generation is so contaminated that it will be rendered unusable for anything aside from big-business-controlled monoculture. Call it my religion, but I think that’s pretty fucked no matter what god you believe in.

        Much love,
        Corinne

        • Reply
          Lauri
          September 6, 2016 at 12:03 pm

          Hmm, thought my original post was much longer. Did you edit it? Wouldn’t surprise me because that’s what anti-GMO people do when confronted with inconvenient facts and data. Next you’ll block me so no one else can read what I write.

          Conveniently, you website won’t let me leave a compressive post with links to real evidence to back up what I say. You call that “spam” so congrats, you successfully block any meaningful conversation on the subject. So, in short, glyphosate is one of the least toxic herbicides in existence. Nothing with Seralini’s name on it can be taken seriously when he has been proven to not conduct proper studies. He is disgraced. NEXT. It is also not a neonicotinoid and the verdict is still out on whether neonicotinoids are a major effect on bees. It certainly isn’t the threat compared to the varroa mite. And bee populations are fine now.

          Your pesticide use article is misleading because the study didn’t take into account the increase in acreage when it discusses increased pesticide use. DUH, more farms, more pesticide use. What is does NOT show is that PER ACRE, GM crops use LESS pesticide and LESS TOXIC ones.

          Organic farming uses pesticides and many of them are MORE toxic than glyphosate. It’s a myth that organic produce has less pesticide residue on it. Organic farmers apply pesticides more often than GMO farmers do because their approved chemicals are less effective than the ones they aren’t allowed to use. It’s stupid. If organic pesticides were so great we wouldn’t need to invent new ones.

          You believe in organic farming, that’s fine for you and the first-world people who believe the false promises and woo. But I am concerned about people in 3rd world countries who can’t afford to be silly about food. People are literally dying needlessly because anti-GMO hippies have it in their minds that they are being “stewards of the earth” when they send bombs to AG safety scientists or throw feces at AG tech meetings.

          • Corinne
            September 6, 2016 at 4:05 pm

            Hi Lauri!

            I don’t edit comments, but I believe it’s common for people to believe that they’ve included more data to back up their claims than they actually have when they are angry and confronted with an opposing opinion. I’m also glad to see that your caps button isn’t broken 😉

            Please feel free to send me any links you think may be helpful in showing me what big ag wants to share about glyphosate. I’ve read quite a bit of monsanto and pioneer literature, but I’m always happy to look at more data.

            I know that a personal invitation might not be good enough because I’m guessing that this is more of a public outreach kind of thing. It seems like this was an important place for you to release your frustrations about the “hippies”, but I’m not going to change my spam filter or all hell will break loose with people trying to sell marijuana through my site, which is super illegal and not fun for me to have to try and keep up with.

            While you seem to have a lot of responses and arguments at the ready about glyphosate, you didn’t seem to respond to the data about the adjuvants in pesticides. Not that it matters. I just found it interesting that you wanted to poke holes in everything you could, but left some things alone.

            You also said that one of the researchers I cited wasn’t credible, but what about all of the rest of the studies that I shared with you? Can you discredit all of those as well. Seralini’s case and this “discredited” study is pretty interesting to me and doesn’t look as cut and dry as you’re making it seem. But thank you for pointing that out because that was an interesting rabbit hole to head down.

            Also, I never said that glyphosate was a neonicintinoid. I said that GE crops allow for more herbicides and pesticides. I then added that those pesticides (neonics) have been linked to CCD.

            And I’d like to point out really quick that I’m not just on this planet to argue and have data wars. I generally don’t do this. I’m not an “anti-gmo person” who is trying to block you from sharing your opinion that is based on things you also have also found on the internet. Want to know what kind of person I am?

            I’m the kind of person that plants flowers that the bees and the humming birds are into because they’re actually important to me. You can hear the humm in my borage plants from 30 feet away, which is one of the most beautiful sounds I’ve ever heard. I’m the kind of person who feeds her family and friends because we love each other. I’m the kind of person who talks about tomato varieties like they’re different people.

            I’m the kind of person who grows my own food without the use of pesticides, herbicides or chemical ferts, which is much more strict than is allowed for “organic” farming.

            I do agree with you that mass monoculture organic farming doesn’t work and that the USDA has jacked that word which is now complete and utter bullshit. You are correct in your assertion that conventional organic farming is stupid and that the label means nothing. I could not agree more. But I don’t see that there’s any evidence that the answer is conventional mass ag or more ge crops.

            People should be empowered to control and sustain their own food sources, utilize land and water sustainably and efficiently, and to protect wild food sources as well. I don’t “believe” in “organic farming”, because I think that argument has been robbed of its meaning and values.

            I do believe that people should have access to nutrient dense foods without added bs, produced locally and in a way that doesn’t inflate populations by creating an unsustainable food source or irreparably destroying the natural environment.

            This is especially important in the third world. I don’t think the goal for “developing nations” should be a decrease in biodiversity or quality of life (which is historically what happens when GM crops are introduced into third world countries) in exchange for corn and soy and sugarcane. Check out Vendana Shiva’s “Stolen Harvest” if you’re really interested in what monoculture ag really does to third world nations.

            I’m not sure why you digressed into talking about hippies throwing feces or trying to attack me for an automatic spam filter, but I understand that it can be hard to remain clear headed when confronted with someone who doesn’t agree with you.

            I think it’s fine that you believe in all of the conventional ag hoopla; that everything is just fine and that all of this is just more progress.

            It’s always kind of funny to me when people who don’t grow any of their own food want to talk to me about what’s right and wrong when it comes to farming. You show me your farm, and I’ll show you mine and we can really talk about which way is “better”for the land, the soil, and the people.

            I’m going to let you have the last word on this one Laurie, because I’m swamped and I have a baby and a bunch of incredible veggies to harvest. But it really was lovely to get to engage about food systems with you.

            And, you know what, I really hope that you’re right and that this is just hippie propaganda BS (and you know how deep pockets of the hippie propaganda machine are), because the long term consequences of this paint a gruesome picture for my daughter and those who come after us. I truly and genuinely hope you have a beautiful day and that you have a healthy and happy life.

            As much love as ever,
            Corinne

          • Lauri
            September 6, 2016 at 5:12 pm

            My comment that finally made it was a fraction of what I wrote that got rejected because it was so annoying to lose all of it. It contained many links to studies and news articles, which might be why it was rejected. So, you have me at a disadvantage when I can’t post links.

            It’s fine if you grow your own organic food without pesticides. Hopefully you will concede that that would be impossible to accomplish on a large scale, unless you can find millions of people willing to weed and pluck bugs 24/7. Lower yields for organic farming means we would have to lose more land to farming in order to go all organic. It’s just not the sole answer and especially with climate change making many lands bad for farming, people will die without GE. And there’s no reason for them to die except for all the activists blocking development of them, either blatantly by destroying test crops or insidiously by fear mongering on the internet.

            And, FYI, I live as close to a green lifestyle as I can within my means. I replaced my gas mower and snow thrower with electric ones and I only drive when absolutely necessary, which means less than 3k miles per year. I have a dual flush toilet and a high end thermostat so I don’t waste energy. I am going to join a solar coop for my electricity soon. We both care about the Earth. The difference is, I listen to science and data to decide what’s best to solve problems, not people trying to sell “health products”. And, BTW, I grow my own cannabis indoors hydroponically and don’t need any pesticides. But I suppose you would object to the nutrients I use because it’s not manure-based.

            Literally thousands of studies have been done to show the safety of GMOs and glyphosate. Studies on human safety, environmental safety, yield advantages, etc. and they prove as close to absolutely as possible that they are safe and necessary. The organic food industry is a BILLION dollar industry and is quite capable of putting on a global propaganda smear campaign. Major players in the organic industry have admitted that GMO labelling isn’t meant to inform people, but instead is meant to scare people away from GMOs and towards organics. They sure were angry when Whole Foods and others didn’t follow along and supported the QR code labelling compromise that lets people ACTUALLY get information about GM technology instead of just seeing a scarlet letter “Made with genetic engineering” sentence. Which is good considering the vast majority of people don’t understand anything about it, which is why they answer in polls that all food containing DNA (so all food except things like salt and sugar) should have a safety label on it to say it contains DNA.

            I talked about the anti-GMO activists activities to show how out of hand this anti-GMO propaganda campaigns have become and it doesn’t help when people like you say unsubstantiated things about them in what you feel is an innocuous way. You are spreading lies and promoting anti-science the same way Reefer Madness propaganda was used to get people anti-cannabis (one thing I discussed in my original post that no longer is there).

            Vandana Shiva is a wealthy charlatan masquerading as a crusader. She is dishonest and so are her movies. She claims to have a degree in physics but really has a degree in philosophy. You really need to vet your information sources better. Her, Mercola, Natural News, Food Babe, Gwyneth Paltrow and more are all selling their expensive crap and lies about GMOs.

            “Shiva has been widely criticized not only for the simplistic nature of her analysis but also for her “lack of intellectual rigour”. Lewontin, for example, has complained that Shiva’s book Stolen Harvest is a ‘conjunction of religious morality, undeveloped assertions about the cultural implications of Indian farming, unexplained claims about the nature of the farm economy in India and how biotechnology destroys it, and unanalyzed or distorted scientific findings’.”

            I take farming advice from real farmers, not my assumptions. I look at blogs like The Farmer’s Daughter (basically her url if you google). That’s how I learned the truth about farming practices vs. the organic industry lies about how GMOs are “doused in pesticides” or contain poisons because of the Bt gene. I listen to experts from Stanford University who talk about how necessary GMOs are to feed people around the world. I DON’T listen to people who spread lies and then sell they own crap, like “Tiny Hydrogen” pills and juice cleanses that don’t actually do anything. There’s no Himalayan salt lamps or vagina steamers in MY house. So sorry if my use of caps for word emphasis annoys you. Your website formatting (or lack thereof) is a mess on my computer so it’s a challenge to post here.

            Listen, I love that you care about the Earth and your impact on it. So do I. I just want you to reconsider your information sources and consider that there are people with insincere agendas on the organic side, too. Science does many good things for us. Don’t throw it away because of their insincere agendas and I won’t automatically believe what corporations say, either. Deal?

          • Lauri
            September 6, 2016 at 5:17 pm

            And, btw, what about the misleading farce the “non-GMO” label is? There are NO GMO coconuts or sunflowers so why the label? I know why. Because as soon as one company pays to get that label on their product all the other companies have to pay for that label to compete. and it means NOTHING. But quite the racket for the labelling certification industry, huh?

          • Corinne
            September 7, 2016 at 4:10 pm

            Okay… again, I’m going to have to do this really quickly, so you’ll have to excuse any typos. But I’m just going to start by saying… no deal.

            I think you may be seeing my responses through the lense of your own perspective and in a way that you only want to argue about GMOS and I think you’re missing my point, so lets recap real quick:

            1. Based on what you said, we don’t “both love the planet”. You love things you can buy at Home Depot that have that little energy star logo on them that lower your energy and water bill. I described my love for living things and life itself. Not saying I’m better than you because of that, but I think you’d agree that they’re not the same.
            2. I never used any of those sources, so I’m not sure why you mentioned them. Plus, I think it’s hilarious that you keep pointing out big organic’s desire to profit but are trying to paint GE corporations as selfless organizations just trying to save starving african babies. OMFG LOLZ. How many BILLIONS do they rake in again?
            3. Also, I am a farmer. Apparently you are not. I have no idea who you are or what you do, but it seems like this is all a theoretical thing for you. It is not for me, because I live and breathe agriculture every day of my life and I have since I grew up surrounded by corn fields in central Illinois. And I agree that we should really only be listening to farmers, not people who have never farmed and not farmers’ daughters (who happens to be an attorney btw). I also want to add that this conversation would have never happened on that website, because she maintains a very strict comment policy that doesn’t allow for any opposing viewpoints that includes this fun little nugget, “However, I will not allow someone else to post an unsupported viewpoint meant to confuse readers.”
            4. Aren’t you GMO folks never supposed to talk about labeling? Because I agree it’s fucked up to have to label something non-gmo ever, regardless of whether or not it could possibly be GMO. As I’m sure you know, GE crops are changing every year and as you pointed out, people aren’t particularly informed or educated about GMOs. So, maybe the GMO folks should have to be the ones to label. Or wait… wouldn’t that hurt their racket? I do agree that people should be more educated about what goes into food, so I’m with you on whole the DNA thing. Completely dumb. But then again, something like 30% of Americans don’t know who the current vice president is, so poor education isn’t just a food issue. Does that mean we shouldn’t label him the vice president anymore?
            5. It’s so funny to me for so many reasons that you’re comparing GMOs to the vilainization of cannabis on this site. There are so many things I’d like to say about that, but I’m genuinely running out of time. I will say that I think marijuana and GMOs have one thing in common: I don’t want someone to put either of them in my food without letting me know first. And I think people have a right to that knowledge, whether or not you fear for a decline in sales for GE foods. Your assertion that americans are too stupid to understand what’s on a label doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t have the right to know. 87% of Americans want to see GMOs labeled, and the 64 other countries that label GE food must really be full idiots. But hey, that leaves more food for smart people like you, right? And don’t talk to me about the cost of labeling either. Many of the same gigantic companies that fight GMO labeling here have no problem creating GMO labeling for the same products in places like China. You’re not talking about small businesses. These are deep pocket multinational corporations. Drop the nonsense about them being benevolent do gooders, who just want what’s best for everyone, and want to protect people who aren’t intelligent from making the wrong choice about food that is totally “safe”. They want to make money, just like Gwyneth Paltrow (I had to google her to see why she was relevant to your argument, but yeah, I agree that shit’s a racket).
            6. I could give a shit less (manure pun) what you use to grow your own pot. I don’t have to smoke it. But I’d love to compare our grows sometime 😉
            7. Yes, I do think millions of people should be empowered to grow food and squash their own bugs, and pull their own “weeds” (many of which are edible and incredibly nutritious and healing for humans). I’m sure you’d call those people organic profiteers, but I’d love to see more biointensive family farms succeed, more people growing some or all of their own food, and everyone eating “weeds” again.
            8. I’ve never experienced lower yields than conventional farming per acre or per plant, so I’m assuming that you’re still talking about organic monocultures. You know the difference, right?
            9. You know a lot about me and who I am, but I don’t know you at all. I live by the following rules: I only take health advice from healthy people, farming advice from people who have an incredible relationship with soil and plants, and life advice from people who are happy and vibrant. So, I’m kind of at a loss as to whether or not this conversation has been a waste of time. You probably consider me just another “charlatan”, pro-organic dumbass, and I see you as being inflexible and so hyper-focused on the organic vs. GMO argument that I think you miss the bigger picture. So, I’m going to try this one more time. I believe that more people should grow food in a way that works in conjunction with natural systems and that all people should be empowered and motivated to do so (think victory gardens etc.). If the beauty of science has taught me anything it’s that nature is incredibly intelligent, dynamic and resilient. If history has taught me anything, it’s that we, as humans (even scientists and especially corporations) are fallible and we make mistakes that can be detrimental to the health of ourselves, ecosystems and to other organisms. I have far more trust in nature than I do in man and the reason that the trust is there is
            because of science. I believe that a cultural legacy of food that is mostly processed corn and soy is downright sad and, from experience, feels really gross and leads to health problems. Do I avoid GMOs? Yes. Because I believe that it’s possible that we might (gasp!) find more information about their long term effects as time goes on and that information might tell a different story than the current scientific community’s limited findings. It has happened in the past (DDT, Chlordane, Aldicarb, etc.) and I think erring on the side of discretion is the intelligent and intuitive thing to do. But that’s not the end all of the argument. GE crops are created for monocultures, which are stupid. There, I said it. They’re fucking stupid. If you put too much of one thing in one place (say corn), the critters that like that thing are going to come, eat it, multiply en masse. The biological controls for those critters won’t be around because you haven’t created habitats or food sources for those things. So you need chemicals to do what your biological control would do for you. This is true of all monocultures, organic, conventional, whatever. And the bigger they are, the bigger these issues are. The way we grow food and the quality of that type of production is ridiculous and if you think anyone is better off for it, or that it’s the wave of the future, I think this conversation is pointless. Again, if you want to eat it, go ahead. If you want to farm that way, be my guest. If you don’t want it to be labeled, enjoy it not being labeled. Literally everything is on your side. Nothing is going to change because of this comment thread and your fear that it will go the way of the hippies is too funny. It’s so odd being on the losing side and having someone still approaching a discussion with martyrdom and anger that anyone would question or defy the status quo.

            I hope you have a good time posting reply arguments, but I’m going to leave this energy suck of a conversation alone and get back to my real life.

            Much love,
            Corinne

          • Janne
            September 12, 2016 at 11:21 pm

            Blog-keeper! We cannot (or atleast I can’t) read your reply for Lauri. Seemed very interesting discussion.

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    KK
    July 13, 2016 at 10:26 am

    Hi! I’m so excited to make the coconut oil! I’m wondering if you are using 7oz. of the trim before you put it in the oven or weighing it after you’ve put it in the oven.
    Thanks!!!

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    Lauri
    August 11, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    I tried adding sunflower lecithin (I chose sunflower lecithin so I wouldn’t get estrogen from soy, not because it is GMO). The effects may come on sooner, hard to tell, but I didn’t like the taste the lecithin added. From now on, I may add lecithin to a cookie recipe where I know the taste will be covered up but I won’t add it directly to my canna oil anymore.

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    Bob Savi
    August 19, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    I have no problem finding Organic, bon-GMO, Soy-Free, with naturally occurring Choline & other Phosphatides.
    Brand Name “NOW” (nowfoods.com)
    Bar Code = 7 33739 02314 8.
    I order it from “Naturesfoodpatch.com” or go there; it work great. Celebrating 50 yrs of Cannabis Use, this month. Started after I got out of Nam & Special Forces in Aug 66 ?, made my first “Alice B” brownies in 67, we just ground up some ole “Indiana Gully Weed” (it was free as long as you didn’t get caught by a farmer), and mixed it right in the mix. I must state that it was crappie stuff 4jays btwn 6 peeps & all we got was a headache. So we mixed it all and bake a tray of 8 brownies. 6 people 1 each and my cousin & I ate another1/2 each. Well next thing I know it the next day, and, everyone is passed out still. That made me a believer, been cooking & etc ever since gonna be 73 next month. Peace ? BobSavi9 (FB)

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      Rob
      August 23, 2016 at 2:09 pm

      Love your post bob really made me laugh man! I mean we had a similar story me and the wife when we were younger and stupider. I misread the instructions (or didnt read any at all) for making pot hot chocolate and we ended up taking waaaaay more than i thought… i simply had a lot of trim from a grow left over (a paper bag full) well after 2 hours it slowly started feeling nice… and then all i remember is sprinting on the spot for over 10 mins to try and get it out of my system. I suddenly felt id been poisoned… and got very paranoid. Well the wife and me ended up falling down the stairs somehow and then we assisted each other to shove our fingers down our throats to purge ourselves (such an awesome idea at the time) before collapsing into bed going in and out of cold sweats and conversations with jesus and the devil. It was freaking full on. I actually made a deal with God that if he let me make it through I would never smoke pot again 😀 We treat edibles with a high respect in this house now. All i can say is weed at those kind of dosages is not simply a recreational drug anymore. I worked it out recently because we had no idea of dose then but we must have been close to the 500mg mark. Weve been wanting to try again recently so that was what brought us here.

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      Corinne
      August 27, 2016 at 3:28 pm

      Awesome Bob! Thanks for the tip… I’ll order mine from there next time 🙂

      Much love,
      Corinne

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    Azalea
    September 7, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Great info, I’m off to try this now. Thanks!

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    NICHOLAS JOHNSON
    October 3, 2016 at 6:50 pm

    Soooo what if I don’t use lecithin?

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    Lola
    October 10, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    Just wanted to say I love your writing! I’ve been perusing your site for the past few days, deciding if i want to try a new way of making edibles. Most of what i found elsewhere while looking was SO scientific and INTERESTING, yes… but unachievable for me and also not really the creative energy i like in the kitchen. The way you lay things out feels very flexible and real-life. Im excited to try out Cannabis Coconut Oil! Thank you for doing what you do!

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      Corinne
      October 11, 2016 at 8:43 am

      Eee! Thanks lola! That is SO sweet. Your comment totally made my morning.

      I felt the exact same way about all of the edibles info out there. I wanted to make sure that things were simple and approachable for folks, so I’m so excited that that was your experience with the content. I’m going to be breaking down some more complicated recipes in the next couple of weeks/months (hard candies, lollies, gummy bears, etc.) so stay tuned 🙂

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    Sarah
    October 27, 2016 at 10:57 am

    Hi Corrine
    I plan to use this as a medicine, and I read that lecithin is very bad for the gut, so using it is not recommended for people with IBD/IBS
    Do you think I can by pass it and still reap the benefits?
    Thanks!

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    Mark Kipper
    January 14, 2017 at 10:13 am

    Is adding lecithin for making oil only or should i add lecithin to tinctures (Green Dragon) as well?

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    Taddy
    March 1, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    two people have inquired as to whether lecithin should be used in tinctures to increase bioavailability but no one has replied. i am in need of this information… could someone ‘in the know’ please reply to this very important question??? thank you in advance…

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    Riff
    March 2, 2017 at 5:28 am

    Hi Taddy, I was interested too in using lecithin in a tincture, I have tried both alcohol and glycerine tinctures, both with and without lecithin. I used sunflower lecithin liquid, good results in both cases. I did have some help from a rival site, sorry Corinne: http://www.badkatscannapharm.com/carboxyl-intact-cannabinoids

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    Nic
    March 22, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    Has anyone used lecithin to combine honey and coconut oil?? As an emulsifier??
    Just made 1L of 1:1 ratio Honey to infused coconut oil and its now hardened coconut oil with honey at the bottom…. not worried, just was hoping to make it the consistency of whipped honey….

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